Saturday, May 30, 2009

[Church_of_Christ] Re: Something To Think About



--- In Church_of_Christ@yahoogroups.com, "heb12347" <heb12347@...> wrote:

>Hi Ed,just got home and ran across your post between you and Lawerence.I just wanted to make a comment.

>The Bible is plain,were kept by the power of God,1Pet.1:5.Those that
are truly born from above will peresevere until the end.I'm not talking about people who claim to be born again by their false profession and then go out and
live like a dog ruturning to its own vomit.1Jhn.gives the reason
people make a choice to leave.

>1Jhn.2:19 says:"They went out from us,but they were noy of us;for if
they had been of us,they would no DOUBT have continued with us:but they went out,that they might be made manifest they were not all of us."

>In Matt.7:23 the Lord on judgement day will tell those that cry Lord,
Lord,depart from me,ye that work iniquity.He didn't say,I used to know
you and you by your choice walked away from me;He said I NEVER knew you.He knows everybody and everything about everybody,what he meant was they never
did have that intimate relationship that He has with His children.

>Please don't teach God fails once again by not being able to keep his
own until the end.
Bill

>
> Dear Lawrence, ED respectfully,
>
>
> Lawrence: Jesus said: "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and
> they follow me:
> And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither
> shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me,
> is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's
> hand. I and my Father are one (John 10:27-30).
>
>
> ED: Thank you for clearing up the "cross over"; someheimers. I agree
> with Jn 10 completely, but I disagree with your interpretation of it.
> Jesus' sheep follow him. They know to follow him by listening to his
> voice - "hear". As long as they are following, there is no one who can
> pluck them from the Father's hand. On the other hand, Paul told the
> Corinthians they were behaving carnally. Had they continued to pursue
> that course and quit following Jesus, they would have removed themselves
> from being a part of those who enjoy the promise. The passages are so
> numerous warning sheep to stay faithful and exposing sheep that have
> lost their promise that I do not feel the need to list them.
>

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