Friday, February 26, 2010

Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

of course agravation will make you lose wieght too.
 
GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.



From: Shelley Cartwright <bugshell87@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 11:38:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

yaaaaaaaaaay
 

ShelleyGlitter



 

 

  




From: George <george_smith92530@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 9:16:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

Exactly!
 

In Christ,   George.....

 

"The LORD is God.  The LORD is one."

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From: Shelley Cartwright <bugshell87@yahoo. com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 9:09:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

jesus is the son of god, jesus is not god!!
 

ShelleyGlitter



 

 

  




From: Naomi Martin <choir_girl_2009@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 3:32:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

Never claimed to be God? Shirley, I'm sorry but you are sorely mistaken! The Scripture says;
 

 

The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. (John 8:57-59)

"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)

And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)

And so when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments, and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for I am. If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet." (John 13:12-14)

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)

 

Jesus therefore said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." They said therefore to Him, "Lord, evermore give us this bread." Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." (John 6:32-35)

Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life." The Pharisees therefore said to Him, "You are bearing witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true." Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true; for I know where I came from, and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from, or where I am going." (John 8:12-14)

Jesus therefore said to them again, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal, and kill, and destroy; I came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep." (John 10:7-11)

Martha therefore said to Jesus, "Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. Even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You." Jesus said to her, "Your brother shall rise again." Martha said to Him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day." Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" She said to Him, "Yes, Lord; I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who comes into the world." (John 11:21-27

 

But Jesus called them to Himself, and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. It is not so among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." (Matthew 20:25-28)

For He was teaching His disciples and telling them, "The Son of Man is to be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill Him; and when He has been killed, He will rise three days later." But they did not understand this statement, and they were afraid to ask Him. (Mark 9:31-32)

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:16-18)

"All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:37-40)

 

Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"

Answer:
Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the precise words, "I am God." That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus' words in John 10:30, "I and the Father are one." We need only to look at the Jews' reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason. "… you, a mere man, claim to be God" (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. Notice that Jesus does not deny His claim to be God. When Jesus declared, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!" The response of the Jews who heard this statement was to take up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded them to do (Leviticus 24:15).

John reiterates the concept of Jesus' deity: "the Word was God" and "the Word became flesh" (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, "Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood." Who bought the church—the church of God—with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!

Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, "But about the Son He says, 'Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.'" The Father refers to Jesus as "O God" indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11, 14:33, 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus' deity.

The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

 

 

There is no greater love than this, to give up your life willingly for others.



From: shirley lafave <amba55ador4chr15t@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 1:30:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

Nope Jesus never taught the trinity. it never existed as jesus is not God never claimed to be either.
 
love u,
Shirley La Fave



From: George <george_smith92530@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 8:07:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

The trinity doctrine teaches that the "3" are all co equal.  The verse you quoted shows Jesus saying that his Father is greater than he is.  The trinity falls apart there.  There are many places where the Father, son and holy spirit are mentioned but that does not make them a trinity of God.  The actual doctrine of the trinity is not taught in the bible. The doctrine came into effect in about the year 350 ad after the third council.  Before that and including all through the old testament one God is taught.  Now  we have fallen away from the teaching of Jesus that God is one.
 

In Christ,   George.....

 

"The LORD is God.  The LORD is one."

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From: Naomi Martin <choir_girl_2009@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 7:47:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

Yes, in John Jesus does speak about the trinity. John 14:23 "If any man love me he will keep my words and my Father will love him and we will come unto him and make our abode with him, and he that loveth me not keepeth not my words, for the words I speak are not mine but the Father who sent me." "But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and keep in rememberance all that I have said unto you." "Ye have heard how I say that I will go away and come again unto you, if ye love me ye shall rejoice for I say I go unto the Father who is greater than I."
 
The scripture is full of the trinity, In John it says 
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jhn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Jhn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Jhn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
Jhn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, [fn] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
If Jesus was not God, then why when He said "I and the Father are one" did the leaders want to stone Him? They themselves said "Not for any other reason do we stone you, but that you made yourself equal with God." another is John 12:44 "Jesus Cried and and said "He that believeth on me believeth on the one who sent me and he that sees me sees the one who sent me."
 
John 15:15 Jesus has now called us friends/brothers because he has made known to us what he is doing.
 
No mere man can take up his own life again. Jesus can not be mere man since he himself said " No man may take my life but I lay it down willingly and can take it up again." Colossians 1 starting at verse 15
 
Yes, Jesus was tempted in every way like us, yet without sin. He was showing us the way. Fight lies with Scripture. With "It is written".
 
Jesus was always in exsistance but as it says in the Scriptures " He did not consider equality with God to be grasped."
 
There are a couple different deaths, physical and spiritual. Physically yes we die but spirtually, no. Unless we face the second death as an unbeliever.
 
We do go straight to heaven, remember the parable Jesus told of Lazarus and the Rich man? Or as Jesus was dying what he said to the theif on the cross?
 
According to the Scriptures, the righteous go to Abraham's bosom while the wicked go to Sheoul at death. Also the wicked will face the White Throne Judgement which the rightous will not face.
 
The bible says that the smoke from the tormented rises up before God's nostrels forever. It is an unquenchable fire. Read Revelation.

 
There is no greater love than this, to give up your life willingly for others.



From: George <george_smith92530@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 9:16:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 

Did Jesus preach on the trinity? Yes in both John Chapter 1 and the last Chapter of John and the first Chapter of Acts when He ascended to Heaven.
 John one is not Jesus preaching.  How does the first chapter of acts teach about the trinity?
 
Who started the trinity doctrine? Jesus because He came to earth as a baby to die for human kind. "He became sin who knew no sin that we might become His righteousness. "
 How is this the trinity?
 
What year did the trinity start? "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God and the same in the beginning was with God, the man Christ Jesus."
 You actually added to the quote when you put on 'the man Christ Jesus'.  You take it for granted the the Word is Jesus.  Jesus portrayed the word and lived the word.  That is why you can say the word became flesh.
 
Is Jesus God? yes
Not once did Jesus call himself God.
 
Is Mary the mother of God? yes
How can God have a mother? 
 
 
Are we the brothers and sisters of God? No, we are the sons and daughters of God. "Jesus said, I go to my God and your God, my Father and your Father."
I agree we are not brothers of God.  That is unthinkable.
 
Are we brothers and sisters of Christ? Yes, "Jesus said, 'He who does the will of my Father, he is my Brother and Sister and Mother.'"
Yes,  Jesus calls us 'brothers'.   So he cannot be God because God has no brothers.
 
 
Can God die? No, Jesus, the visible representation died for our sins.
That's right.  God cannot die.  Jesus cannot be God because he died.  Jesus took the penalty for our sins.  The penalty for sin is death.
 
 
Can God be tempted? No, and neither can he tempt any man.
Jesus was tempted so he cannot be God.  He is a man.
 
Did Jesus pre-exist? yes. In the beginning according to Genesis and as well as throughout the old testament.
This word is an oxymoron.  How can anything exist before it exists.  Jesus was born after he was concieved in Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit.  This is why he was called the son of God.
 
Is pre-exist really a word? yes
It may be a word but it is an oxymoron because something can't exist before it exists.
 
Is it possible to pre-exist your existence? I dont know
Just like Jesus we come into existence at our birth. 
 
Are we really dead when we die? no, it is written " I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me, though he were dead yet will he live, and he that livith and believeth in me shall never die"
When we die we are dead.  Jesus is the resurrection because he will raise us from the dead.  Our hope is in the resurrection from the dead.  If we are not really dead why the resurrection?
 
Will Jesus come back and raise us from the dead? yes
Amen!
 
When we rise from the dead will we live on the earth? I believe so
Yes,  that is our hope.  Most people think that when we die we go straight to Heaven.  That is not true though. We don't go anywhere untill Jesus returns and raises us from the dead.
 
Will we reign with Christ for a 1000 years? yes
I'm looking forward to it.
 
Will all rise from the dead eventually? yes
I agree.  Everyone will eventually rise from the dead.  Some to life and some to judgement and death.  There is no waiting place for the dead.  The good and the bad all go to the same place untill they come back to life.
 
When will the dead be judged? in the last days
They will be judged after the 1000 year reign of Christ.
 
Do those who are lost get sent to eternal torment? yes
No,  the evil will be destroyed forever,  not tormented.  The punishment has to fit the crime.  The wages of sin is death not eternal life of torment.
 
Do the lost get destroyed forever? yes
Yes destroyed in the lake of fire.  They burn up and they are gone forever.  What purpose would God have for keeping them around?
 
When did Jesus begin his existence? He exsisted before the world was created
When he was begotton.
 
How many persons are their in God? 3
God is one.
 
How many Gods are there? 1
I agree.
 
Is there just one God? yes
Of course!
 
Are you being honest with your answers? yes
Well you are trying anyway. 

 

In Christ,   George.....

 

"The LORD is God.  The LORD is one."

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From: Naomi Martin <choir_girl_2009@ yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 4:53:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] 25 Questions (type in your answer)

 



 
Did Jesus preach on the trinity? Yes in both John Chapter 1 and the last Chapter of John and the first Chapter of Acts when He ascended to Heaven.
 
Who started the trinity doctrine? Jesus because He came to earth as a baby to die for human kind. "He became sin who knew no sin that we might become His righteousness. "
 
What year did the trinity start? "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God and the same in the beginning was with God, the man Christ Jesus."
 
Is Jesus God? yes
 
Is Mary the mother of God? yes
 
Are we the brothers and sisters of God? No, we are the sons and daughters of God. "Jesus said, I go to my God and your God, my Father and your Father."
 
Are we brothers and sisters of Christ? Yes, "Jesus said, 'He who does the will of my Father, he is my Brother and Sister and Mother.'"
 
Can God die? No, Jesus, the visible representation died for our sins.
 
Can God be tempted? No, and neither can he tempt any man.
 
Did Jesus pre-exist? yes. In the beginning according to Genesis and as well as throughout the old testament.
 
Is pre-exist really a word? yes
 
Is it possible to pre-exist your existence? I dont know
 
Are we really dead when we die? no, it is written " I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me, though he were dead yet will he live, and he that livith and believeth in me shall never die"
 
Will Jesus come back and raise us from the dead? yes
 
When we rise from the dead will we live on the earth? I believe so
 
Will we reign with Christ for a 1000 years? yes
 
Will all rise from the dead eventually? yes
 
When will the dead be judged? in the last days
 
Do those who are lost get sent to eternal torment? yes
 
Do the lost get destroyed forever? yes
 
When did Jesus begin his existence? He exsisted before the world was created
 
How many persons are their in God? 3
 
How many Gods are there? 1
 
Is there just one God? yes
 
Are you being honest with your answers? yes
 

In Christ,   George.....

 

"The LORD is God.  The LORD is one."

Click to join GersonTherapy

 







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