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whoohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats awesome, see im learning everyday here in FOG still :)

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Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13,14).
, "That is why I am suffering as I am. Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day" (2 Timothy 1:12) and "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes" (Romans 1:16).

From: Amanda Webster-Sibal <oneoddduck3@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 1:25:01 PM
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You are welcome, Shelley. I love the woman at the well. It is amazing to me at a time when a Samaritan is unclean and women were thought of as property lower than a man's goat that Jesus picked a Samaritan woman to be his first evangelist!!

Amanda

There is an optimistic belief widespread among the generous-hearted that the average human being has only to become sufficiently acquainted with another's trouble or danger to transfer it to his own shoulders not merely unhesitatingly but gladly. --Margery Allingham

Bear one another's burdens. Galatians 6:2

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:56:47 PM
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amen & thanx for that explanation amada

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From: Amanda Webster-Sibal <oneoddduck3@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 12:53:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

Jesus didn't accuse the woman at the well of adultery actually. It's pretty interesting. Like I said in the other post -- I love this story!

John 4:16-18, "Jesus said to her, 'God, call your husband, and come back.' the woman answered him, 'I have no husband,' Jesus said to her, 'You are right in saying, 'I have no husband'; for you have had five husbands, and the one you have now is not your husband. What you have said is true!'"

The question is -- why has she had so many husbands? There are actually multiple possibilities -- so what Jesus REALLY meant by this is unknown a little bit. The woman didn't seem repentant or asking for forgiveness (unlike other accounts of women 'caught in sin'). She was simply very surprised he KNEW this information. With this, she knew he was the Messiah. She says later that he told everything she had ever done -- that doesn't always imply sins.

Divorce was very easy at this time. It's one of the reasons why Jesus spoke against it. Women were property. Marriage wasn't about love. It was about a business arrangement. Divorced women were many times left out in the cold. They weren't bothered with, and many resorted to prostitution in order to earn money to eat. It wasn't a pretty sight really. Women could be divorced on any grounds. It didn't have to make ANY sense. If a man was bored with her, she could be tossed to the curb. Not a pleasant practice, and it makes plenty of sense why Jesus HATED it. However, this woman has been married 5 times. It doesn't mention she was divorced 5 times. It is highly possible that her previous husbands died. It is also likely that they were brothers. Jews practiced what was called Levirate marriage. If you married a man and he died, you were literally passed on to his brother like you were a piece of property (technically as a woman you were property). It was a common practice. It was a way to keep the connections made with a marriage in the family or the clan. It is STILL practiced in some cultures.

Deuteronomy 25:5-6, "When brothers reside together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the deceased shall NOT be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband's brother shall go in to her, taking her in marriage, and performing the duty of a husband's brother to her, and the firstborn whom she bears shall succeed the name of the deceased brother, so that his name may not be blotted out of Israel."

However, sadly -- the marriage is still up to the man. The woman didn't have a say so. If the woman has been passed down through the brothers and the last brother doesn't want her, she is essentially STUCK. As property, though, she is still in the home with the family. The women just didn't have the rights to deal with this practice at all. Likely, the Samaritan woman (who isn't Mary Magdalene) was caught up in the Levirate marriage practice and didn't have much of a choice in her living situation. Jesus' mentioning of this is more about how he KNEW her. It was clear that he was no ordinary man. He is the Messiah!

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 2:18:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

thats adultery then right?

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From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 10:40:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

when Jesus met her at te well, he told her she had 7 men and none of them was a husband
or something like that.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 2:39:53 PM
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people were stoning her cuz she commited adultery your right theres nothing saying she was a prostitute

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From: Amanda Webster-Sibal <oneoddduck3@yahoo.com>
To: "FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com" <FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 10:30:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

I think part of the whole issue with Mary of Magdala (or Mary Magdalene) is that many think she was a prostitute. There is, however, nothing in scripture that states she was a prostitute at all. So - it adds to the problem. But isnt it in the realm of possibity that someone is around from Jesus' family line? He did has brothers and sisters.

Amanda

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On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com> wrote:

yea they just have to make him less than a God, worldly people that don't want the bible to be right.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 5:44:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

i heard he married mary magdeline, thats not true, jesus never has sex and never married

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Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13,14).
    , "That is why I am suffering as I am. Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day" (2 Timothy 1:12) and "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes" (Romans 1:16).



From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 12:56:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

they say Jesus was a man and had a family.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 2:02:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

huh? lol

SHELLEY

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Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13,14).
    , "That is why I am suffering as I am. Yet I am not ashamed, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him for that day" (2 Timothy 1:12) and "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes" (Romans 1:16).



From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:58:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

we hear a lot of people saying they are of Jesus lineage, i just smile at them, Jesus said as long as they are not hindering you leave them be. not the same words but easier for some to understand.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 10:54:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

Amen! The cross by itself is no good if Jesus didn't raise from the dead.

Your brother in Christ, George...

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From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:07:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

i know most people read about the cross but not the what came before.   we learned in my church to read the scriptures before and after to get a full picture of whats going on.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: Stacy Hutchinson <paschkehutchinson@gmail.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 1:23:05 AM
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Yes I know, but, try telling that to the people at God Tube. I have tried on three occassions now and I might as well be talking to a brick wall.<35E.gif>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com> wrote:

actually if you read it closely he hung there for a while before they pierced his side, they wanted him to suffer. I think he died broken-hearted, because after all he taught the disciples they went back to thier old lives instead of goin on with his work like he told them.

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

From: Shelley Cartwright <glitter4jesus@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 1:11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

no he coukldnt have cuz that was what GOD his fatgher inteneded it to be like and the beatinggs were to abd and thern the crucifixition itself would kill ya hanging there for 6 hours.................

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Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13,14).




From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Fwd: Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

he could have if he chose to, aren't you glad he did it for us?

GOD IS LOVE
wanda
Prov.28:13- he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them , shall have mercy.

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Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 10:46:15 PM
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I say no, He died on the cross and the all powerful hand of God brought him back for His glory.

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Could Jesus Have Survived the Crucifixion?

Greg Laurie

The swoon theory is one of Satan's oldest lies concerning the Resurrection. This theory proposes that Jesus did not rise from the dead, because He never really died. Instead, Jesus went into a deep coma or "swoon" from the severe pain and trauma of the Crucifixion. Then, in the cool atmosphere of the tomb, Christ revived, somehow escaped the strips of cloths that were wrapped tightly upon Him, and then appeared to His disciples.

The swoon theory flies in the face of the facts. You see, the Roman guards were experts at execution and would be put to death if they allowed a condemned man, like Christ, to escape death. The guards were certain Jesus was dead, because when they thrust a spear into His side, it brought forth blood and water. This was their final proof of His death because this occurs when the heart stops beating.

Some time ago I read a local advice column that featured a reader's question about the Resurrection. The reader asked, "Dear Uticus, Our preacher said that Jesus swooned on the cross and then His disciples nursed Him to health. What do you think? Signed, Bewildered." Uticus responded, "Dear Bewildered, Beat your preacher with a cat-o'-nine-tails thirty-nine times. Nail him to a cross. Hang him in the sun for six hours. Run a spear through his side, embalm him, and put him in an airless tomb for thirty-six hours and see what happens. Sincerely, Uticus."

Uticus' response points to the ridiculousness of the swoon theory. Amazingly enough, people still subscribe to this theory. Not because it's plausible. Not because it's logical, but because it's something to hang their doubt on. The truth of the matter is that Jesus Christ has risen!

Taken from "A Case for the Resurrection (Part 2)" by Harvest Ministries (used by permission).

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