Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church

 

But none of us or Jeremiah can say or  said, I am the beginning and the end. I am the Life, and the Truth and none of them said I will come again to collect my own . And no one , none of us are Eternal. Only God is eternal.Jesus is eternal, the Spirit is Eternal.

George, you know what my subject specialization is . It is Etymology and these names you quoted do not mean God.

We need to realize that the origin of the name God

The English word for "God" has become a source of confusion for Christians since at least the Anglo-Saxon era.  Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary says that the origin of the word 'god' comes from a Germanic word 'gad,' pronounced as "gohdt." 

 

The following information on the origin of the word 'god' will help to understand why we use it in our vernacular.

 

GOD - The English word God is identical with the Anglo-Saxon word for "good," and therefore it is believed that the name God refers to the divine goodness. (See Oehler's Theol. of Old Test.; Strong's and Young's concordances.)  (From New Unger's Bible Dictionary)  (Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois.  Copyright (C) 1988.)


Word origin:  God - Our word god goes back via Germanic to Indo-European, in which a corresponding ancestor form meant "invoked one."  The word's only surviving non-Germanic relative is Sanskrit hu, invoke the gods, a form which appears in the Rig Veda, most ancient of Hindu scriptures:  puru-hutas,  "much invoked," epithet of the rain-and-thunder god Indra.  (From READER'S DIGEST, Family Word Finder, page 351) (Originally published by The Reader's Digest Association, Inc., Pleasantville New York,    Montreal;   Copyright   (C)  1975)

UNDERSTANDING THE WORD "GOD" FROM THE BIBLE

 

Since our English language has it's origin from Indo-European influence, our understanding of the meaning of the word for "God" (from the Biblical Hebrew and Greek languages) is obviously different. 

 

When the King James Version of the Bible (KJV) was translated in  A.D. 1611, the translators used the words common to European people.  Instead of translating a word properly, by using the Hebrew or Greek meaning, the translators replaced the true meaning of the Scriptural words with words common to their London English vernacular. 

 

For example, we will first examine the words, LORD, Lord, and lord.  By providing the true meaning of the use of these words, it is easy to see how the early Bible translations were in error:

 

LORD  - LORD. The rendering of several Hebrew and Greek words, which have different meanings:

 

1. LORD; GOD = Jehovah (Yahweh; Hebrew YHWH, third person singular noun from the root word, "ehyeh" meaning literally, "self-existent").  This is used as a proper name of God and should have been retained in that form by the translators.  The LORD (Yahweh) should read in the KJV and other versions as, "He is" or "He exists".



Jeremiah
\j(e)-re-miah\ as a boy's name is pronounced jare-ah-MYE-ah. It is of Hebrew origin, and the meaning of Jeremiah is "the Lord exalts".

Jerusalem Jerusalem

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There is no town as Biblical as Jerusalem, but it was neither built nor named by Hebrews. Remnants of a Canaanite town called Salem date back to the early bronze age, and the first Biblical mentioning of this place is in Genesis 14:18, where Abraham and Melchizedek meet. The name Jerusalem occurs first in Joshua 10:1 and the city of Jerusalem was conquered, sacked and apparently abandoned by Israel (Judges 1:8). Four hundred years later David conquered Jerusalem from the Jebusites, annexed it and made it his capital (2 Samuel 5:6).

By the time the Hebrews had a say in it, the name Jerusalem had been long established. Most likely, the original name, that sounded something like Urusalimum or Ursalimmu, meant Foundation Of Shalem, the latter being a known Ugaritic god. The reason why the Hebrews didn't rename the city when they had the chance may be because its name was easily transliterated into something very striking in Hebrew.

Without a doubt the second and dominant part of the name reminded (then and now) of the word shalom (shalom), peace. The root of this word, shalem (shalem), denotes completeness, wholeness and soundness. In this sense the name Jerusalem is related to some other famous names from the David saga: Solomon and Absalom.

The first part of the name Jerusalem may likely have reminded a Hebrew audience of the verb yara (yara), throw, cast or shoot. This verb is used when arrows are shot, stones are thrown or stacked and even when lots are cast. Other derivations of this same verb is yoreh (yoreh), early rain, and moreh (moreh b, c), meaning both early rain and teacher. Basically, the verb and its nouns have to do with many little impulses that cause a larger and unified event, or serve to obtain a larger and unified objective. Most striking, however, is the derivation Torah (tora), which is the word Torah, or Law.

Perhaps the name Jerusalem was never changed, but only Hebraized, because it seems to mean Rain Of Peace.
Jerusalem was to be the radiating heart of a world of completeness and wholeness. It seems that history supplied her with a most suiting name.

For a meaning of the name Jerusalem, NOBS Study Bible Name List reads Possession Of Peace. Jones' Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names reads Foundation Of Peace.

Jesus is the personification of who God is. If you have seen Him you have seen God, your heavenly Father,".Jesus  Himself said, "Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father "(John 14:6-9, John 14:19-21). The name God means self-existent. The word "God" is the proper name for the supreme being whom we call the Father,or  the Spirit or the Son.   God is everywhere, in everything. Without Him nothing holds. God Himself says in the Scripure, I Am. Jesus also said, I Am, on the same sense as Supreme being.
John 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."


It simply means God begat a human form of Himself, in whom dwelt all the fullness of God. It means the One who exists as a spirit, who has a voice, took human form as the Son and made God known to us, so we can have eternal life, through the human form. All we have to do is believe Him.


Molly





--- On Tue, 5/7/11, George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church
To: "FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com" <FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 5 July, 2011, 10:57 PM

 

Jeramiah's name also means God.  Jeramiah was not God.  Same with Elijah and many more called by God's name.  Even the city of Jerusalem means God our peace.  Is the city God?  Coming in God's name does not make you God.  It may mean you come in the authority of God but you are not God.  Say if God told me to tell you something.  I would go and tell you as if I was God speaking it because I was coming in His name.  I think you understand this.
 
In Christ, George...
 
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From: Molly Chandy <jmchandy@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church

 
Exactly, He came in the same name - God. Immanuel -God with us.

Molly

--- On Tue, 5/7/11, Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 July, 2011, 9:15 PM

 
Jesus is the son of God, and he said i come in my fathers name. Well his fathers name is God.

-----Original Message-----
Date: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:49:43 pm
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
From: "Molly Chandy" <jmchandy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church

If you deny those two verses, how about this one George.
"And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: GOD was
manifest in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto
the Gentiles, BELIEVED ON in the world, RECEIVED UP into
glory."
--1 Timothy 3:16
--- On Mon, 4/7/11, George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church
To: "FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com" <FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 4 July, 2011, 10:11 PM
















 









These two verses do not say that Jesus is God. 
 In Christ, George...
 
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   From: Molly Chandy <jmchandy@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] Conspiracy in the Church













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