[Church_of_Christ] Re: Creeds
Clay,
> I don't mean to get into "YES YOU DID" say you wouldn't want me to be a member there, because "YES YOU DID"
Have it your way.
> You said:
> Personally, I would love to visit Joelton, have a meal with the church, visit with you, talk to other members. That would be great. But when it comes to membership, my first question would be "What is your statement of faith?" And if the answer was 'the bible is our only statement of faith' I would politely decline membership, but would feel free to visit at any time.
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> Clay's response:
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> It's a good thing Ray you didn't live in the first century and ask Paul that, you would have been disappointed with Him too.
>
> Christians were not told.....OK guys everyone deceide what you believe about "church stuff" and follow the appropiate leader of
> your choice. Put a sign up that depicts differences and quiz new
> converts and make sure that the accept what your divisive group
> believes so there will be unity in each little divisive group.
>
> In fact Ray your concept isn't new. Paul dealt with this "specific"
> problem and told them, look guys .....
>
> 10I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.
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> 12What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas[a]"; still another, "I follow Christ."
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> 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into[b] the name of Paul? 14I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15so no one can say that you were baptized into my name.
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> 16(Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
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Paul's point in this passage is this:
"Don't gather in your own churches and let everyone believe what they want to believe. Don't let people choose their own doctrine and follow whatever they want. Get together and agree on what I have already taught you. Come together united on sound doctrine that I have shared with you.
I'm rather lenient compared to Paul. He knew nothing of what you do at Joelton, and I think even our statements of faith would have been tame for him.
Plus, anyone denying the trinity would be turned over to satan, something Paul did with those who reject sound doctrine.
I wouldn't turn you over to satan.
Ray
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