Family of God: [Church_of_Christ] Re: Holy Spirit 3

George:

<rbpesach09@> wrote: Well, miracles still do their job whether anyone believes they are from God or not.
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> George: The "job" of a miracle was so people could believe God is with the doer of the miracle.

When Moses' staff turned into a serpent and ate two serpents, many people may have believed. But even if they didn't, two serpents were still eaten.

Jairus' daughter got up from her death bed. Even if no one ever believed that Jesus was sent from God, Jairus' daughter lived on.

I could go on with every miracle in the bible starting in Genesis. Miracles accomplish something BESIDES convincing peole that God is with the doer of the miracle.

> Ray: If a person lays hands on someone's broken leg and the leg is healed, that person has a mended leg even if the people around take no notice.
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> George: If a person has a gift to heal, God is with him. He wouldn't need to touch a leg but by speaking a word, the leg would heal instantly even if the leg was thousands of miles away. Let's demonstrate some real power, shall we? How about giving a man who has never stood on his feet the ability to pick himself up and walk? That's the power of God!

Your best dogdge ball yet. The point still remains that the leg is healed...regardless of distance.....and the man was walking again. and for the record, it's the power of God whether you throw yourself across the body (see the OT incident) or you speak the word from a distance....it's still all God.

> Ray: If a person brings a prophecy or word of wisdom to another person, the receiver is edified even if the rest of the people didn't even hear it and don't care.
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> George: The gifts were meant to edify the body of Christ(believers) and to prove to unbelievers that God is with that body.

That's what I said......and no, provin to unbelievers that God is with that body is not a function of the gifts except by accident. Don't bother me with 1 Cor 14:56. That tragically abused scripture is a cessationist's idol.

> Ray: Miracles still have their own affects even if no one's mind is changed about God or miracles.
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> George: We have a difference of opinion here as to the purpose of God's gifts.
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Of course we do. Cessationists don't like the FACT that supernatural gifts and miracles actually accomplish things. It undermines their ability to keep God out of the 21st century.

But He still shows up for those who accept the promise.

Ray

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