Re: Re: [FamilyofGod] A verse to ponder/George
well spoken or typed.. i looked up tribulation in a concordance once it means mental pressures from evil. even unbeleivers get mental pressures they just go get pills for a temparary fix. we can go to God's word put it on in our minds, which is renwing our minds and then we get permanant results. and end up new creatures in Christ, putting on the mind of Christ. being transformed into the peeps we realy desire to be. WOW. i like God's options to dealing with the tribulations we face better.
Shirley La Fave
From: George <george_smith92530@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:49:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [FamilyofGod] A verse to ponder/George
Yeah, I don't think it affects anything if you believe it is before or after. We all get plenty of tribulation and persecution just for being a Christian. The only problem that arises is when people believe that they won't go through anything. Some could fall away as a result of this when trials and tribulations come. This is mostly found in the "prosperity gospel" that is so popular nowadays. So you have the right attitude in saying and being ready for whatever happens.
God is one, George...
From: Judy <SharingJesus@comporium.net>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:38:54 AM
Subject: Fw: Re: [FamilyofGod] A verse to ponder/George
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| I' believe it could happen either way, but I am more pre trib as that is what I have been thought, but like I say if we are ready and can endure, God will see us through. That does not mean nothing terrible will ever happen to us, but God will help us to endure if we have faith to believe and trust. Myself I think if God does not come soon, or heal me, I will be in the first resurrection. As I am dying, but to die is to gain, so it doesn't bother me. To be absent with the body is to be present with the Lord, and oh how I love His presents. I look so forward to be with the Lord, it is about all I can think of most days. Judy L <>< George wrote: Yes, we must be ready and waiting. I personally don't go along with the modern rapture teaching. I believe Christians will suffer great tribulation. Look at the tribulation millions of Christians and Jews have already suffered. Of course Jesus was the first to suffer great tribulation. But it never stopped after that. I think all the apostles except John suffered horrible deaths at the hands of those who hated Christ. John was thrown into a vat of burning oil but God saved him out of that. Very many Christians died at the hands of the Romans. Then millions more died for their faith after the councils that the "orthodox" church had to set the new "christian doctrine". People like me were labeled heretics and were impaled, burnt at the stake and many other things done in the name of God. This went on for over a thousand years. Just recently the pope finally confessed about the atrocities that went on in the inquisition of the catholic church. Then we have the holocaust in ww2 which killed about 10 million Jews and other "less desirables". I think the ones who went through all this were not pre-rapture believers. They went through the worst tribulations imaginable. But they are all resting now and will be part of the first resurrection and will see their enemies thrown into the Lake of Fire. God is one, George...
From: Judy <SharingJesus@ comporium. net> To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 7:05:47 AM Subject: Re: [FamilyofGod] A verse to ponder/George
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