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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:31 PM PDT

If there was a fundie in the jungle, you'd better believe Tarzan was not left unmolested.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:28 PM PDT

Hi summerbreeze. Thanks for helping me find that.

Yes, I think if I could have talked to my dad one on one about religion earlier, he would have moved beyond it by the time of his death. I wrote a post about this. It just bothered me so much that he gave so much of his life to the church and at the end, was so conflicted and scared about not believing.

I remember that in-between stage. For me, it lasted several years.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:23 PM PDT

Neal...another insightful article, I really like your " down-to-earth " style!
Thanks ! ( keep `em coming----always interesting )

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:18 PM PDT

ROFL! That is too funny, MorningGuy. :)

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:18 PM PDT

lisa, Hi !....a round-about way of doing this. I left a comment to you, under yours where you spoke of your Dad. ( at the very very end of the " The Eternal Life Oxymoron " thread. ) You probably didn't get it in your e-mail thing `cause it was below the "more comments" line.
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know it was there !--summerbreeze

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 06:02 PM PDT

Actually, there were fundies in the jungle. Ray
Comfort and Kirk Cameron. They couldn't convert
Tarzan, but they did keep trying to steal Cheetah"s
banana!

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:50 PM PDT

lisa,

I'll go with your description of the "Darwinian jungle", but only if the primordial soup didn't create any fundies in that jungle?

ATF (Who wonders if any fundie ever tried to convert Tarzan, in his jungle?)

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:47 PM PDT

Peter,
Well actually I have been to those types of churches, but I never hung around to watch their worship service.

I have however, attended a pentecostal church service.....on YOUTUBE [g]

ATF (Who wonders if youtube counts?)

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:46 PM PDT

Peter:My god has a hammer

If I had a hammer,
I'd hammer in the morning,
I'd hammer in the evening....

I'd hammer some common sense into the fundies.

ATF

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:42 PM PDT

You have to agree that we have been once more treated to a living example of how having blind faith is stupid...But, it is also intrusive, insulting, and ultimately very dangerous. Evil passed on as good: bigoted judgment made to seem love and justice. Pushing the idea of a caring intelligence manipulating all of life and the universe and then contorting to explain away all what is unintelligent and cruel. All of it is stupid...What is frightening is how omnipresent it is globally.

We each are forging a fairly lonely path as we think things through. Granted there is more support, as this site, and there is more opportunity to connect with others, no so much like-minded as following their own path and chopping away at the underbrush. It would be a little be nicer if the f**ingfunding didn't invade. It's fun for a little while, but it really distracts from the serious conversations we would like to have. We can give each other so much support when we are not engaged in answering the inanities of the preachers. Though they know we won't be convinced, they at least meet one goal: to distract us from the work of working it out through really focused and mutually supportive thinking.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:26 PM PDT

The biblegod is one who takes away about as much as he gives. I don't understand why that particular example took. There were so many other competing myths that were part of so many other cultures. None of the myths floating around then would be of much use today, but this one took. What strange contortions and contradictions the believers go through to explain and defend. Bad, indifferent and good things happen. That's just the way it is. We, as humans, do what we can to have more good things happen. It's tough, but that's the way it is.
I sometimes feel that when we attack the ideas of a mythical caring god, and it's not hard to do, we are still angry because the mythical god turned out to be so course and cruel. There is no god that we can discern, certainly one that in any way resembles the bible god, so why must we spend time and energy pointing out to believers that their god is mean and bad? It still isn't diminishing the energy in the bibletrolls that come here to fight about our dismissive attitudes toward their myths.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:24 PM PDT

SSDD?

I don't know. I guess I'm just not in the mood right now to go around in circles with crazy people right now. That's all it is. Round and round, where it stops nobody knows.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:18 PM PDT

Thor. Gotta love 'im.

No seriously. You've got to love him or he will pound you to a pulp. Hmmm, or is that some other god I'm thinking of?

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:11 PM PDT

Paul, you are so full of it it isn't funny, interesting nor even reason to answer. The boring shit you keep typing is memorized stuff. You have no idea what it means to think an original thought.

What attracts you to this site? Shush. Go. Your mama is calling you.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 05:08 PM PDT

HA!

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Posted: 31 Oct 2009 04:55 PM PDT

(Hugs Thor) Bróðir minn!

Great poster.