Saturday, April 25, 2009

[Church_of_Christ] Re: Holy Spirit 3



Kent,

> > And Jesus speaks in absolutes. There are no such things as exceptions
> > to what Jesus says.
>
> Sure there are exceptions:
>
> > For whoever is not against us is for us. - Mark 9:40
>
> vs
>
> > Anyone who is not with Me is against Me.... - Luke 11:23
>
> The one case is an exception against the other case. Neither case is an
> absolute.

Actually, Mark 9 and Luke 11 are the exact same teaching. The wording is different but the points are identical. In fact, this is one of the best examples of absolutes in all of Jesus' teachings.

> And again, just to emphasize the point: Jesus did not say that no one
> would believe if they witnessed a resurrection from the dead; he said
> that Abraham said that about the rich man's brothers. I'd be hesitant to
> turn this into an absolute which applies to all humans.
>

Jesus is the teacher in this passage. He is using this example to teach his listeners how the word of God is handled. People who accept a teaching from the word will respond correctly when God works according to that word. People who reject a teaching will not respond correctly even if a miracle confirms that word.

I have no hesistation in turning this into an absolute. But feel free to disagree.

Ray

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