Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Re: [FamilyofGod] Re: Simple Thoughts On Promises- 124

 

I know there are quite a few people that think as long as they are there they will be saved.  Remember the one talent that was buried, the Lord took it and gave it to the one with ten.  If you don't use the talent you have you miss your reward.  Pray for us we are looking for a new church to work with.  I am  trying to be patient but, I'm still working on my patience.  We had a really bad situation with the last group we worked with and we are trying to wait to find a new group.
 
wanda
GOD IS LOVE



From: Mary <motherfourchildren@yahoo.com>
To: FamilyofGod@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:25:46 PM
Subject: [FamilyofGod] Re: Simple Thoughts On Promises- 124

 

Wanda,

Aren't we suppose to be ready in season and out of season. All things to
all men?

I am sorry, I have never been to a service where they say, "Not now." Or
the pastor stating that we will talk about it later. Maybe, pray and
then, we will talk about it later.

You are correct, the true church will have everyone working together
using their different gifts that God gave them. It has come to my
attention that there are quite a few members of the churches who just
fill a pew too. They contribute nothing.

God bless,
MaryC
--- In FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com, Wanda Ward <angelina56p47@ ...>
wrote:
>
> A lot of ministers think they are supposed to control what is going
on, the true church is going to have people who work in all phases of
the ministry.. If a minister tells me they will talk about a prayer
request instead of praying I have to wonder why he doesn't want to pray.
I was at a revival the other day ,I wasn't feeling well, and I ask
about prayer requests, they said tommorrow we'll do that. When I went
to my dr the next day she said bed rest etc. because I had a bronchial
infection. If somebody needs prayer we need to be ready to pray now not
when we get around to it.
> wanda
> GOD IS LOVE
>
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> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: victorsteven1 victorsteven1@ ...
> To: FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44:28 PM
> Subject: [FamilyofGod] Re: Simple Thoughts On Promises- 124
>
>
> I would also caution you about following "maybe hunches"
> One needs to make their calling and election sure according to the
scriptures. "Prove all things, bear all things, hold fast to that which
is good."
> Many people feel like the Body of Christ is supposed to be a bunch of
"free agents" running around "doing their own thing"
> The church ( body of Christ) is set up so all is done decently and in
order.
> To teach people that there is no accountability in ministry is a lie.
> Ministries are to be proven out.
> God has placed many gifts into the Body.
> To disrespect any part of the Body is wrong.
> To act independently from direction of the head(Christ) causes
division in the body.
>
> SO any action requires I can truly hear and understand the Lords voice
>
> John 10:27
> My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
>
> --- In FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com, "victorsteven1" <victorsteven1@
...> wrote:
> >
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> > Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there
rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
> >
> >
> > How should this have been handled?
> > Who is "wrong" who is "right"?
> > Is that what is important here?
> > What is important,
> > our agenda,
> > another mans agenda,
> > or God's agenda?
> > We all like to think our agenda and God's are the same. The problem
is culture and peoples pasts mix into what we view as what God wants
done.
> > For this pastor maybe it was a view that women are not to minister
> >
> > for yourself maybe there is the issue of wanting acceptance and
respect as a minister of God.
> > Welcome to what is referred to as the "burden of the Lord"
> > You want to do what God has instructed you to do and it weighs on
you ....
> > Is this the Lord?
> > What is this sensation in my hands? While a mature person would know
by experience someone who isn't is unsure and hesitant.
> > Who wants to mess up, surely not someone who loves the Lord.Surely
not a person who feels accountable to the Lord for having not done the
mission they felt God had called them to.
> > Let me encourage you Sister. you are not alone.. If we peel back the
surface of all the "glamor" of ministry" you will find many people share
your dilemma.
> > How do we get past this stagnation and uncertainty? First of all
take it out of the closet. Satan loves things done in secret. People
have their misunderstandings. None of us are perfect not you, not me,
nor this pastor. While one would think they could expect more maturity
and discretion from a pastor they are people nonetheless, and just as
human as the rest of us.
> > There is only one sinless and perfect one that ever walked the earth
and that was Jesus.To keep a festering wound never help to heal it.Lack
of forgiveness blocks the flow of God and would put up a roadblock for
the real manifest presence of God in your life .Holding onto a felling
of perceived wrongs is like clinging to a huge rock while you are trying
to swim.
> >
> > SO why did I share those scriptures with you at the beginning of my
reply? Because in keeping this all internal you give place to the devil.
If you had a problem with this pastor you needed to go to him in a
spirit of meekness and talk about this. Sometimes the way we "take"
(perceive) things from others in life is just a reflection of ourselves.
> > God is the great equalizer in life we are not to take matters in our
own hands and get our way unless God has specifically told us to.
> >
> > While we are truly endeavoring to learn a new ministry trust me some
of what you will experience may seem painful It would be nice if it was
all laying hands on people and they all get healed.It would also be nice
if you had a real word for someone that they all received it and we all
live happily ever after, but it doesn't always go that way.
> > While I am at work in the field of the Lord I can expect offence
will come Jesus told us it would. SO if I am truly a disciple I rejoice
because I am accounted worthy to suffer reproach while I truly am
working for HIM. It isn't about me and my feelings , it is about him.We
must refuse to be an unwitting tool in the devils plans and disarm the
offense by confronting it head on in a meek and submissive way.
> > If I am under and mans ministry I submit to him in the Lord and give
him honor. I don't talk about him behind his back.Like the scripture say
go to him and settle the matter. Be Spirit lead and God will bless you
for being a doer of the word.
> >
> > If I am always considering "my feelings" I make myself vulnerable to
the devil. Really "I am dead and my life is hidden with Christ in God" I
am crucified with Christ and live by faith.... dead people don't have
hurts and resentments. ....... I am not a resident here in this world
just passing through I don't expect pastors to be perfect... I am not
either
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com, "Dr. Johnson Cherian"
<johnsonsharona@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your testimony. Yeah, sometimes pastors are jealous if
people under them have greater gifts like that of prophecy or healing
and that can lead to a clash.
> > > Be obedient to the promptings of the Holy Spirit. That will bring
you peace.
> > > Dr. Johnson
> > >
> > > --- In FamilyofGod@ yahoogroups. com, Isabella's Rose Garden
<matthews1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi Wanda
> > > > I find pastors often dismiss women, and some are very rude. One
time I
> > > > was on the way to church and we had to pass a woman's house who
we had
> > > > recently heard had been diagnosed with terminal cancer. On the
way my
> > > > hands felt like they were on fire. This had never happened to me
> > > > before. I thought maybe I was supposed to stop and pray for the
woman
> > > > but barely knew her and was afraid I was just fooling myself
about my
> > > > hands being hot meaning God wanted me to use them as His
instrument to
> > > > heal others. So I didn't stop.
> > > > Then after church I said to my pastor that I thought maybe God
wanted to
> > > > use me as an instrument of healing through the laying on of
hands. He
> > > > looked at me with this scornful look on his face and said
something like
> > > > "well we will see"
> > > > Im basically a very insecure and shy person and it doesn't take
much to
> > > > discourage me, so I just sort of slunk out of the church and
decided not
> > > > to think about the healing anymore. I convinced myself it was
just me
> > > > wanting to have the gift, not God speaking to me.
> > > > I think my gift has been hindered by that experience because
since that
> > > > time the only ones who seem affected significantly by my laying
on of
> > > > hands for healing is my husband and my dad. Maybe that's what
God
> > > > intended tho, so that's just fine with me.
> > > > I just don't want to be burying my 'talent' as the Bible warns
against.
> > > > But I don't want to assume something that is just of my own
yearning
> > > > either.
> > > > I wish I knew how to know for sure when to attempt to use the
gift
> > > > because so many people need God's healing.
> > > > One time a friend was having panic attacks. I never told her
anything
> > > > about my experiences with healing. I just hugged her and patted
her on
> > > > the back and prayed in tongues silently for a brief time. From
that
> > > > time on she seemed so much calmer and hasn't spoken of more
panic attacks..
> > > > Maybe we can bring God's healing through hugs and silent prayer
too??
> > > > The only thing wrong with it that I can see is how do I give the
glory
> > > > to God if the person doesn't know what really happened?
> > > > Maybe God only cares if I give Him Glory in my heart. and not so
much
> > > > that I make it public.
> > > > What do you all think?
> > > > Marilyn
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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